Tuesday, 19 February 2013

HP Smart Array P420i Controller – Caveat: Need Flash Based Cache to Make Any Online Array Changes

We are in the process of setting up a Windows Server 2012 Hyper-V host with two server operating system guests, one DC and one RDS, and a couple of desktop operating system guests.

We were brought in to set up the environment at the hardware vendor’s request. So, this box was set up prior to our jumping in.

Since we do not work with HP servers on a regular basis we are not up on their terminology nor product features throughout their server lines.

We are in the process of looking into filling up the 2.5” hot swap drive bays as the server came configured with a RAID 10 (RAID 1+0) array and one global hot spare.

Having worked with Intel RAID Controllers most of the time as well as LSI RAID controllers we have come to expect advanced features to work out of the box. This is primarily due to the fact that we run with mainstream series or high performance series RAID controllers out of the box.

We avoid entry level if at all possible.

As we have discovered today, this is one reason why:

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Note the following:

  • Modular, easy-to-upgrade design lets you optimize performance by upgrading from 40-bit 512MB cache to 72-bit 1GB Flash Backed Write Cache or 72-bit 2GB Flash Backed Write Cache (FBWC).
  • Addition of the flash backed cache upgrade enables array expansion, logical drive extension, RAID migration, and stripe size migration.

Obviously the emphasis is ours.

So, we are now in a position where we need to find out the cost on the 1GB and 2GB FBWC options for this particular server.

We are not sure what that cost will be but it will probably beat out our having to back up the entire server and its guests, that are already set up for production, and restoring the box using our ShadowProtect IT Edition license.

The clue that something was up came via the HP management utility that showed the following for the current RAID array configuration:

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Note the distinct absence of RAID 6.

Apparently there is a license key that enables RAID 6 in this particular controller.

So, we hit two caveats with this setup:

  • Flash based Cache is required for advanced RAID features.
  • A license pack is required to enable RAID 6.

Ever try to purchase a base model car and add _just_ the features needed like cruise/tilt/air and a decent stereo and end up more expensive that the “LX” version of that vehicle?

It has been a disappointing trend in our industry to no longer be able to configure a Tier 1 server system, desktop system, or workstation system without having to knew the bits and pieces that these systems are made up of. We used to be able to configure systems that would just work as we expect them to and have the features we would expect for the price we paid.

Also, it has been our experience that the Tier 1 sales folks that _know_ these bits and pieces are very hard come-by with the onus being on us to make sure we have our ducks lined up _before_ we initiate contact.

Philip Elder
MPECS Inc.
Microsoft Small Business Specialists
Co-Author: SBS 2008 Blueprint Book

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6 comments:

Anonymous said...

Yeah, this is one of the reasons we NEVER use HP servers, that and just about every single HP server we have ever used has had a hardware issue at somepoint. Their support is very poor compaired to Dell.

Paul

Aaron Marks said...

This is why we 100% rely on Dell and and Intel Servers. Mostly Dell though.

Mark Welte said...

Welcome to dealing with HP. Have a 2 year old Gen 6 server that it NOT supported by HP for Windows Server 2012. We took the HP bait once and will never again.

Anonymous said...

we are dealing with hp servers since dl380 G1. Had never any issues. Its not that issue to buy the controller with 1gb fbwc, if you want raid6 add adv.lic and if you want realy fast support buy a carepack 4hrs-24/7-5years. I think you tried to safe money at the wrong side.

Shane Tucker said...

As of the most recent P420i firmware upgrade, you no longer need any license to enable RAID 6. Additionally, unless you are buying the cheapest of models, almost every pre-configured Gen8 HP server will come with some form of flash backed write cache.

They made right of their initial shortcomings, but you still have to hate paying premiums to get what should be available out of the gate...

Anonymous said...

As long as I can think this has alway been the case with HP controllers. Without the cache module most functions are not available.

You can find all this in the specs:
http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/productbulletin.html#spectype=worldwide&type=html&docid=14228

You should have asked an HP partner first before ordering!